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!! Woman Arrested In Parental Child Abduction !!
« on: December 16, 2011, 07:21:26 PM »
Woman Arrested In Parental Child Abduction
CJOB News Team reporting
12/16/2011


A 47-year old woman is facing charges of parental child abduction after an incident near Brandon.  RCMP say the boy's father called the police concerned his estranged wife and 7-year old son left...  taking personal belongings and passports with them.  Working with U.S. law enforcement agencies,  Provincial and Federal Justice officials and the Canada Border Services Agency... police arrested the woman at Los Angeles International Airport around 10 o'clock Thursday night. Arrangements are being made to have her extradited back to Canada.  The father flew to the U.S. to bring back his son.    The woman won't be named to protect the identity of the child.
   
http://www.cjob.com/News/Local/Story.aspx?ID=1627928

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Re: !! Woman Arrested In Parental Child Abduction !!
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2011, 07:26:00 PM »
ENTER AT OWN RISK , lol. aint that right.
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2011, 08:24:18 AM »
Every now and then justice does prevail.  Glad she was caught and the son is back with his father.
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Re: !! Woman Arrested In Parental Child Abduction !!
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2011, 01:46:17 PM »
Great that the child went home, but why no Hague Convention?  Why no drawn out legal procedures and allegations of domestic violence?  Who decides which of these cases gets treated as a criminal matter with immediate extradition and resolution versus being dropped in the mud and mire of the Hague Convention?
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Re: !! Woman Arrested In Parental Child Abduction !!
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2011, 11:29:57 AM »
Great that the child went home, but why no Hague Convention?  Why no drawn out legal procedures and allegations of domestic violence?  Who decides which of these cases gets treated as a criminal matter with immediate extradition and resolution versus being dropped in the mud and mire of the Hague Convention?
because she didnt eat of the forbidden fruit. the deceitful forbidden fruit....
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Re: !! Woman Arrested In Parental Child Abduction !!
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2011, 12:58:54 PM »
Great that the child went home, but why no Hague Convention?  Why no drawn out legal procedures and allegations of domestic violence?  Who decides which of these cases gets treated as a criminal matter with immediate extradition and resolution versus being dropped in the mud and mire of the Hague Convention?

Because she was not able to abscond with the child. They caught her before she was able to get on the airplane. Hague is only applied once the parent leaves the country. You should know all of this.

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Re: !! Woman Arrested In Parental Child Abduction !!
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2011, 02:40:41 PM »
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Great that the child went home, but why no Hague Convention?  Why no drawn out legal procedures and allegations of domestic violence?  Who decides which of these cases gets treated as a criminal matter with immediate extradition and resolution versus being dropped in the mud and mire of the Hague Convention?

I suspect the woman was wanted for other charges in addition to parental child abduction.
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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2011, 06:18:24 PM »
Great that the child went home, but why no Hague Convention?  Why no drawn out legal procedures and allegations of domestic violence?  Who decides which of these cases gets treated as a criminal matter with immediate extradition and resolution versus being dropped in the mud and mire of the Hague Convention?

Because she was not able to abscond with the child. They caught her before she was able to get on the airplane. Hague is only applied once the parent leaves the country. You should know all of this.
Read again. She made it to the LA airport from Canada. That I would say is an international parental abduction. But America seems to only care what other countries thinks of them instead of thinking on their own . I think the point was a good one Carlos, why is America allowed to choose who goes through this Hague System and who doesnt .
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Re: !! Woman Arrested In Parental Child Abduction !!
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2011, 07:07:54 PM »
A+  Canadian women abducted  December 14, 2011
B+  Her Canadian child away from
C+  Child's Canadian father        December 14, 2011

=Mother was caught at LA-X  December 15, 2011

One day does not equal habitual residency or asylum.

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2- Your child was abducted
3- Mother abducted child
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Re: !! Woman Arrested In Parental Child Abduction !!
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2011, 08:27:51 PM »
A+  Canadian women abducted  December 14, 2011
B+  Her Canadian child away from
C+  Child's Canadian father        December 14, 2011

=Mother was caught at LA-X  December 15, 2011

One day does not equal habitual residency or asylum.

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1- Your the father
2- Your child was abducted
3- Mother abducted child
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I wished it worked this way for American LBP's .  half of our state officials wont even co-sponcer HR1940.Let alone go after the abductor.
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Re: !! Woman Arrested In Parental Child Abduction !!
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2011, 07:58:11 AM »
Great that the child went home, but why no Hague Convention?  Why no drawn out legal procedures and allegations of domestic violence?  Who decides which of these cases gets treated as a criminal matter with immediate extradition and resolution versus being dropped in the mud and mire of the Hague Convention?

Because she was not able to abscond with the child. They caught her before she was able to get on the airplane. Hague is only applied once the parent leaves the country. You should know all of this.
Read again. She made it to the LA airport from Canada. That I would say is an international parental abduction. But America seems to only care what other countries thinks of them instead of thinking on their own . I think the point was a good one Carlos, why is America allowed to choose who goes through this Hague System and who doesnt .

What I have wondered about on this one is did she make it into the country. Yes, she was arrested at LAX, which makes me believe that on her international arrival that ICE or the Federal Police wouldn't let her pass into the US. Unsuccessful abduction ... therefore no civil case for abduction because she was unsuccessful. I wonder for which crime she was arrested?
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Re: !! Woman Arrested In Parental Child Abduction !!
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2011, 03:14:01 PM »
Great that the child went home, but why no Hague Convention?  Why no drawn out legal procedures and allegations of domestic violence?  Who decides which of these cases gets treated as a criminal matter with immediate extradition and resolution versus being dropped in the mud and mire of the Hague Convention?

Because she was not able to abscond with the child. They caught her before she was able to get on the airplane. Hague is only applied once the parent leaves the country. You should know all of this.
Read again. She made it to the LA airport from Canada. That I would say is an international parental abduction. But America seems to only care what other countries thinks of them instead of thinking on their own . I think the point was a good one Carlos, why is America allowed to choose who goes through this Hague System and who doesnt .

What I have wondered about on this one is did she make it into the country. Yes, she was arrested at LAX, which makes me believe that on her international arrival that ICE or the Federal Police wouldn't let her pass into the US. Unsuccessful abduction ... therefore no civil case for abduction because she was unsuccessful. I wonder for which crime she was arrested?
it says for the warrant out of Canada for parental kidnapping.Not that i disagree with you Dan that she successfully dodged the international abduction charge  ; BUT ,when is it considered an abduction if getting them out of the country isnt ? If you dont consider this an  international abduction and prosecute them for it I myself would think this presents opportunities for want to be abductors to attempt it without fear of prosecution if they dont succeed in the actual retention phase of their maticulous plan .And would in fact like to see people like this woman charged as if they had actually been successful. It would make would be or want to be abductors think twice.
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Re: !! Woman Arrested In Parental Child Abduction !!
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2011, 04:09:52 PM »
What I have wondered about on this one is did she make it into the country. Yes, she was arrested at LAX, which makes me believe that on her international arrival that ICE or the Federal Police wouldn't let her pass into the US. Unsuccessful abduction ... therefore no civil case for abduction because she was unsuccessful. I wonder for which crime she was arrested?

You're probably right.  ICE could have been informed before she passed through immigration who then just denied her entry into the country forcing her to fly back to Canada.  Flying into, and landing in, the US at an airport does not mean you have been officially admitted into the country -- indeed it's not all that uncommon for people holding valid visas to be denied entry upon arrival and sent home.

The article says "extradited" but mainstream news articles frequently use legal terms imprecisely, if not completely inappropriately.
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