Reunification Process with the Abducting Parent Begins!

[Andrew]

Here is the latest update on the Family Court.

On Friday November 18, 2011,  Judge Scott M. Gordon of the Los Angeles Superior Court Dept 88 (111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA) ordered visitation for the kidnapper on every Saturday for 4 hours.

Judge Gordon ordered the mother Yuxin Mei Wang to undergo psychological counseling on July 20th but has not seen any report from the psychologist.  Even the boys' therapist has said he would like to see the report and also see a few more steps before the mother is allowed contact with the boys.  If anyone has time, please write to Judge Gordon and ask him why he thinks it is safe for the mother to contact the children if he hasn't see any report from the mother's counseling sessions. 

The boys' therapist said to keep the boys busy.  They are playing tennis and basketball at school.  The boys tried skiing in April after their return and asked me to get them Season Lift Tickets.  Now the Judge orders visitation on Sat so our schedule goes out the window.  The Judge didn't even ask what activities or schedule the boys have before making his order.  Just incredible that so much consideration is given a convicted Felon and not the left behind victim.  If the mother was so keen on spending time with the boys, she should not have kidnapped them in the first place  The Custody order at the time of the kidnapping gave her 58% custodial time!

I called a few professional visitation monitors and they asked why the mother has any say in the selection of the visitation monitor since she is the one who kidnapped the twins.  Good question but tha is my lawyer Hugh Lipton.

He is withdrawing from my case because I would not approve an email the mother sent to the boys rightaway.  He said I had to approve it "by tomorrow" or I can find a new attorney.  Just incredible.

Now I will be un-represented.  The mother's attorney Cynthia A. de Petris is now spinning ths situation by saying "assist the boys in this process leading to reunification with mother."  Give me a break.  Reunification is with the Left Behind Parent!  If you have time, please write Cynthia A. de Petris at deasedepetris@hotmail.com or cynthiaadepetris@gmail.com or fax her at 818-981-2201 and explain to her that reunification is with the left behind parent; NOT with the KIDNAPPER.

After 5 weeks, I still don't have the order that prevents the motehr from travelling with the twins.  I need it for the State Dept to get DHS to put the boys on the Prevent Departure Program. 

[Andrew]

Here is an update to all to show the obstacles encountered by a LBP AFTER he recovers his children from an international child abduction.  There is some history here to show how people and systems involved failed.

- On Nov15, 2006 Judge Scott M. Gordon denied the mother Yu Xin Mei Wang's request to take the boys to Singapore for a vacation.  He cited Singapore being a non-Hague country and the mother is a flight risk.

- On June 23 2008, Judge Gordon again acknowledged the mother as a flight risk and denied her 2nd request to take the twins to Singapore for a vacation.

-I didn't know it but the international abduction of Congressman Gary Miller's (Diamond Bar) grandchildren in Nov 2007 is related to my case.  Brian, Evan and Christian Miller were clients of Minor's Counsel Deborah Manning of Glendora, CA.

- In November 2008, Judge Gordon appointed Deborah Manning as minor's counsel for my twin boys saying it is a good choice.  

- Early 2009, Ms. Manning highlighted that the mother might be looking to move away.  This was never brought up in Court nor followed up. Failure #1

- A Child Custody Evaluation was ordered in 2009 and assigned to LA County Evaluator Karin Manger on Apr29 2009.  In the confidential and sealed evaluation report that was released by Wang's attorney without court approval, Ms. Manger stated she spent 2.5 hours with the mother on May20, 2009 and another 2.5 hours on Jun23, 2009.  In over 5 hours of one-on-one interviews, Ms. Manger COULD NOT tell that the mother had already applied for Singapore passports for the children and was in the midst of her plan to kidnap the boys.  Failure #2

- Fast forward to March 15, 2011.  The boys arrive back in the US.

- I had arranged for counseling and therapy for the boys via NCMEC and a Santa Monica CA organization called Find the Children.  Ms. Manning did not like the choice and instead asks me to take the boys to another therapist in Pasadena CA with zero experience with international child abduction.  We start therapy on March 17, 2011.

- On April 14 2011 the mother's second attempt to take the boys was stopped by the San Marino PD.  Officer Wong and Social Worker Ruiz said if I didn't have the phone number of the mother's friend Ruby Chan, "the boys would be gone."

-On April 20, 2011, we were back in Family Court.   Minor's Counsel Ms. Manning did not tell the Court of the 2nd attempt to kidnap the boys eventhough she was contaced on April 14 2011 by the police officer and the social worker Ruiz and updated on the situation.  Failure #3.

- On July 20, 2011, we are back in Judge Goron's court.  Minors Counsel argues: "Respondent Mother to participate in counseling in the Los Angeles area with a trained therapist in parental alienation so that she can learn and understand, among other things, the impact of her actions on the children; and how to support their relationship with their father.”

- I thought this is a great start and the Judge orders the mother into counseling.

- On Aug29 2011.  We are all back in Family Court again.  WITHOUT any input from Dr. Susan Ralston of Pasadena, CA, Minor's Counsel recommends to the Court that the mother be given email access to the boys.

- While setting up the email access, Minor's Counsel wrote:

Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 20:46:07 -0700
To: peasedepetris@hotmail.com
The user names selected by your client for the boys may be seen as "code" words. 

OFW has been asked to issue new user names for the boys.  However, to expedite things, would you have your client forward the message she posted to this email address for review

- As if that is not enough, Minor's Counsel wrote again 1 month later:

Sent: 10/4/2011 10:24:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time
Subj: Re: Ko v Wang
 
Andrew:

I received professional access this morning and have reviewed the messages.  I sent them to Dr. Northrup for his review.  I have a problem with her use of foreign words, and I am bothered by reference to userids and passwords.  I shared these concerns with Dr. Northrup.

He will review the messages and contact me.  I suggested that the boys see the emails while in session with him so that he can monitor their response.  Perhaps, he could help them draft their emails to mom. 

Hopefully, mom has paid him some money to cover the cost of reviewing the emails and meeting with the boys to read the emails. 

I will advise Ms. dePetris of what we are doing.

Deborah Manning

- Failure #4: this was never brought up in Court in subsequent hearings.  I asked Ms. Manning many times why she is not changing her recommendation for email access even in the face of hard evidence that the mother is doing something she is not comfortable with.  No response whatsoever.

- On Nov18, again without any input from the mother's psychologist Dr. Ralston, the Judge orders monitored visitation.  No one speaks up about the attempts to use code words or the 2nd attempt at kidnapping on April 14, 2011.  Failure #5.

[SageDad]

I'm very sorry, but not so surprised to read this...

There are those who will insist that mom's criminality is some sort of treatable condition right up until they day she kidnaps or kills the kids... and then afterwords, continue to do so and blame the father for driving the mother to such extremes.  Those same people will never see the father as anything but a potential rapist and pedophile no matter what the evidence says.   

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/890839--dimanno-taking-aim-at-a-grieving-dad

It's all about "Women and children first" -- in that order.

[Andrew]

Here is a continuation to bring everyone up to present day on the obstacles and failures
- The email exchanges start and I notice reference to a "hotel, the day before we left."  Is this a reminder of the hotel and to go there again?  I ask Minor's Counsel and therapist.  Was told this is "questions what any normal parent would ask."
- Sorry, but the mother is NOT a "normal parent."  Normal parents don't kidnap their children, get convicted as an international child abductor, nor brainwash their children into believing their father they have known their entire lives is not their father.  Come on! 
- On Dec7, I find a piece of paper with directions in one of the boy's pockets.  I take it to the San Marino PD and make a report.  The Watch Commander advised that I have to bring this up to the attention of the judge.  The Police increase patrols around our home.
- I write Minor's Counsel the following but did not get any response.  Failure #6

From: ko_andrew@hotmail.com
To: debmanning
Subject: Emails crossing the line
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 21:42:21 +0000


Ms. Manning,
 
The latest email from the mother that could be read to the boys tonight has a reference to Aunt Ruby.  You will remember Ruby is the one the boys called to pick them up when they ran away in April; and the Police went to her house to get the boys back. 
 
Do you feel it is allowable for the mother to remind the boys of Aunt Ruby?
 
Do you feel as I do that code is being used to remind the boys to do something?
 
Please look at "basketball" reference in mother's first email, Williams response on basketball with the hotel they were at the day before they left, and "see you soon."
 
Here is what I like to see happen.  When an email has suspected code words or improper references to the past, the entire email is deleted.  You or Dr. Northrup will notify the mother that her email is not acceptable.  We don't need to pick apart each and every email from the mother.  She needs to play by the rules or she doesn't. 
 
Thanks in advance for your response. 

- I followed up with a phone call to Minor's Counsel and she does not return a call or anything. 
- Minor's Counsel has had 5 clients become victims of international child abduction.  Did Judge Gordon appoint her because she has the experience and can spot potential abduction before it happens?
- I get an email to ask to see the boys in less than 24 hours:

From: AKo [mailto:andrewko@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 7:13 PM
To: AKo
Cc: Tracy Kuehl; <debmanning@earthlink.net>; Randy Northrop; Hugh Lipton
Subject: Re: RE Ko v. Wang

 

Ms Manning.  Please disregard my last email. The boys see Dr Randy at 630 and I would rather you see the boys at his office.

 We had an incident today when de Petris sent a process server to the house. The boys called me and I told them to say they cannot talk to strangers.  The man got the phone from the boys and proceeded to call me.  The police was called and came to the house to ask the man to leave.

 You last saw the boys on Aug22. During the last 4 months there were opportunities to see them during my appeal to you regarding email access. Last Monday I emailed you with 2 questions and called to get your input while on my way to Dr Randy's. No response.

Now you give less than 24 hours notice to see boys just because there is a hearing on Friday. You are to look out for their best interest 24/7; not just to tell the court you saw them. We are the victims and need help.

Regards, Andrew


On Dec 13, 2011, at 1:30 PM, <@manninglaw.org> wrote:

Dear Mr. Andrew Ko:
 
This email is sent to inform you that Ms. Manning has scheduled an appointment for you to bring your children in for an appointment at our office tomorrow, December 14, 2011 at 4:00 p.m.


Our address is 2605 E. Foothill Blvd., Suite A, Glendora, CA 91740.


Thank you,


\Secretary to

Deborah J. Manning, Esq

- I am at a loss as to why people do not be more cautious and err on the conservative side to make sure the children are protected?

[Andrew]

The boys have seen their mother 3 times and they have regressed somewhat.  William said I should start a new life and leave them alone.  Is this what a 11 year old boys would say?

The visitation monitor Connie Thomas of Quality Time Visitation of Claremont California is taking the role of judge to make changes to visitation arrangements.  I have started a blog www.qualitytimevisitation.blogspot.com to let everyone know what she is doing.  "Someone" should call Thomas and read her the rules and expose her!!

Quality Time is a member of the Supervised Visitation Network but there is no (NO) oversight of members by SVN.  SVN collects a membership fee but does not visit the member's place of business or have a procedure to investigate complaints.  I spoke with the Executive Director Joe Nullet and he said they simply don't have the resources.  Collect $100 or $150 a year but don't hire any resources to check out the members.  He kept asking me if I had read their "Disclaimer."

I asked Mr. Nullet to think about this scenario: a person sets up a supervised visitation business, applies to SVN for membership and pays dues.  A custodial parent searches the SVN Directory for a visitation monitor or the custodial parent contacts NCMEC for referral.  Custodial parent engages a SVN member and his/her child is molested or abused by the monitor.  I asked Mr. Nullet if he thinks his "Disclaimer" is enough to shield SVN from liability.  He replied "it hasn't happened in 20 years."

The membership in SVN implies/infers credibility/professionalism and gives a false sense of security to a custodial parent by making him/her think that SVN has regular contact/visits of its members.  I have filed a complaint with Mr Nullet. Let's see if he does anything. 

In the meantime, I have contacted Dr. Craig Childress (http://www.drcachildress.org/asp/Site/ParentalAlienation/index.asp ) who has a lot of experience in parental alienation.  Read his letter for parents to give to therapists.  I sent a copy to the boy's therapist but he didn't read it.  We are now changing therapist for the boys.  The boy's therapist confirmed he does not have any experience with international child abduction and joked maybe Minor's Counsel has a crush on him and that is why she referred him.  Incredible.

[Diane]

 So sad and that you now have your sons home and that the criminal abductor, is able to continue to make things so difficult.   These judges, social workers, therapists, persons assigned to supervise visits (that should not even be happening) at this point need to experience a child abduction in their own life. before they can even begin to understand how unfair this is in every way and especially to the process of reunification.    It is criminal for you to have to deal with this legal morass and then have your young children further alienated by "professionals" and brainwashing by their mother. 

 I hope someone in the system is able to help you and your sons to receive fair treatment and allow you the time and space you need to bond with them and for them to see the kind of loving father you are, without any pressure or negative input from anyone.

[sue]

So sad and that you now have your sons home and that the criminal abductor, is able to continue to make things so difficult.   These judges, social workers, therapists, persons assigned to supervise visits (that should not even be happening) at this point need to experience a child abduction in their own life. before they can even begin to understand how unfair this is in every way and especially to the process of reunification.    It is criminal for you to have to deal with this legal morass and then have your young children further alienated by "professionals" and brainwashing by their mother. 

 I hope someone in the system is able to help you and your sons to receive fair treatment and allow you the time and space you need to bond with them and for them to see the kind of loving father you are, without any pressure or negative input from anyone.

:yeahthat
This makes me so angry, truly amazing that you are having to go through this.  Can you ask for different social workers, therapists , all that are involved?  I just can't believe they would allow her to see the boys after what you have written here.  Yet these social workers have left children in homes and later found murdered.  Things need to change.  Don't stop! 

[rduffiel]

It appears that they are thinking that the kidnapper is the victim, and not you and the boys.
They are not protecting you or the boys and just ignoring your concerns.  It seems that they are just following a script that is just a process that was put in place by their office.

You need the time to rebound with your boys, and she shouldn't be allowed to interfere with that,

[SageDad]

It appears that they are thinking that the kidnapper is the victim...

...It seems that they are just following a script...

They are following a script.  It says mom is always the victim.

[Andrew]

We are on our 3rd Visitation Monitor.  The 2nd one called Wee Care 4 U Agency in Claremont CA quit when I asked her for her taxpayer ID or Employer ID Number.  Wee Care 4 U Agency has been around since 2000, it is strange that it refuses to provide the taxpayer ID.
 
I ask everyone in California to vote AGAINST Dianne Feinstein in her re-election bid in June.  When I asked her office to help bring the twins home in the fall of 2009, her Director of Constituent Services Martha Flores told me they are too busy to help.  Ms. Flores insisted on all communication be via fax, no email, no telephone.  Feinstein has been in office too long and has lost touch with her constituents who need her help.  DO NOT VOTE FOR Dianne Feinstein.

[sue]

I can do that for you!
 

[jenicoy]

I can too.  She's been in office too long.