Suing the government

[NoansDad]

Here is another strategy I have just thought of. Seeing as out kids are being held in other countries and the countries  are in violation of Hague we should sue them. But we can't sue another country,(yes it can be done) because how would we collect?

I will speak to my lawyer about suing the countries in Federal court here for the AID they receive from our government. Literally the same approach as Chris Smith's federal law. If a country does not follow the Hague Convention then I am sure we will be able to make a case to sue for their federal aid that is here in this county before they can receive it.

Brasil gets 3 Billion a year, we calculate how much to sue Brasil for from when Tim Weinsteins kids were taken and then also going forward.

Most countries that have been sued, Lybia, Iraq have lost but the judgement is normally symbolic because the countries were terrorist countries. But If sued a man who lived in Europe and he has assets here in the US then they can be seized. (I imagine a lot of countries also keep their sovereign gold store in the USA as well, to protect from theft and because of better laws here in the USA, so they do have assets here to seize.

[ProudDaddy]

Here is another strategy I have just thought of. Seeing as out kids are being held in other countries and the countries  are in violation of Hague we should sue them. But we can't sue another country,(yes it can be done) because how would we collect?

I will speak to my lawyer about suing the countries in Federal court here for the AID they receive from our government. Literally the same approach as Chris Smith's federal law. If a country does not follow the Hague Convention then I am sure we will be able to make a case to sue for their federal aid that is here in this county before they can receive it.

Brasil gets 3 Billion a year, we calculate how much to sue Brasil for from when Tim Weinsteins kids were taken and then also going forward.

Most countries that have been sued, Lybia, Iraq have lost but the judgement is normally symbolic because the countries were terrorist countries. But If sued a man who lived in Europe and he has assets here in the US then they can be seized. (I imagine a lot of countries also keep their sovereign gold store in the USA as well, to protect from theft and because of better laws here in the USA, so they do have assets here to seize.

I am curious: where did you get that figure? According to the US org "Just The Facts" (http://justf.org/) the total of US aid to Brazil on a 5-year period (2007-2012) will amount to almost 129 million USD. That is a small figure considered the size and economies of both countries.

As far as I know Brazil does not have gold stored in US custody but owns more than 130 billion USD in US treasury bonds. That's a sizeable asset. And possibly seizeable also (but it could be considered US defaulting on its sovereign debt).

[NoansDad]

I pulled the figure out of my arse this morning based on the favored nation status that gives Brasil 3 billion in less tax or something. I am still as irrational as all hell due to the judge in my case violating his own federal laws to assist my son's abductor yesterday and issuing a ruling that seeing his father would be detrimental to the child because it would be a disruption to his routine as a two year old.

Thanks for the info on Brasil Aid and assests.

[ProudDaddy]

I pulled the figure out of my arse this morning based on the favored nation status that gives Brasil 3 billion in less tax or something. I am still as irrational as all hell due to the judge in my case violating his own federal laws to assist my son's abductor yesterday and issuing a ruling that seeing his father would be detrimental to the child because it would be a disruption to his routine as a two year old.

Thanks for the info on Brasil Aid and assests.

I see, you must feel devastated by that stupid decision - I'd be if I was impeded to keep contact with my children. But do appeal, a judge's decision is never final until it reaches the STF. André, if you are still reading the posts, couldn't in this case be invoked the "jurisprudência formada" by the David's case? I mean, the federal court decided that David should have rights to visit Sean while the case was pending. So it should be the same principle here.

Back to the figures, the 3 billion (I guess the correct is 2.1 billion) is not money that US gives to Brazil but the total amount sold by the Brazilian exporters to their US customers, under the tax break program.

[LukieD]

Back to the figures, the 3 billion (I guess the correct is 2.1 billion) is not money that US gives to Brazil but the total amount sold by the Brazilian exporters to their US customers, under the tax break program.

Close PD, it's the amount of duty-free exports permitted to Brazil and 128 other countries by the US under a program designed to promote economic growth in the developing world.

http://www.ustr.gov/trade-topics/trade-development/preference-programs/generalized-system-preference-gsp

More on it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalized_System_of_Preferences

http://international-trade-reports.blogspot.com/2011/03/generalized-system-of-preferences.html

Background

The U.S. Generalized System of Preferences (GSP), a program designed to promote economic growth in the developing world, provides preferential duty-free entry for more than 4,650 products from 144 designated beneficiary countries and territories. Under the Trade Act of 1974, the President is authorized to withdraw, suspend, or limit duty-free treatment for any article from one or more beneficiary developing countries after considering, among other factors, whether that country provides adequate and effective intellectual property protection.

The Administration initiated a GSP IPR review for Brazil in January 2001 based on a petition from the International Intellectual Property Alliance (IIPA). According to IIPA, estimated losses due to piracy of copyrighted materials totaled $785 million in 2003, an increase of $70 million over the previous year and the largest loss in the hemisphere. There have been some positive developments in Brazil, including the report of the Commission on Parliamentary Inquiry to address piracy, some moderate successes in civil copyright infringement cases and improved dialogue and information sharing regarding copyright piracy through the U.S. – Brazil Bilateral Consultative Committee. However, U.S. copyright holders argue that they continue to suffer substantial losses due to piracy.

In 2003, duty-free GSP imports from Brazil totaled $2.5 billion and comprised 14 percent of total imports from Brazil of $17.9 billion. Brazil accounted for 12% of total U.S. GSP imports of $21.3 billion in 2003. Key GSP imports from Brazil include: motor vehicle parts and accessories; granite monument/other stone; copper cathodes and other copper products; and wood and millwork products.

[NoansDad]

Brasil has 200 Billion in US Treasuries.

Just so we all know.