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Offline todez

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Nona is at it again!
« on: June 06, 2011, 12:27:24 PM »
Here is the link to Nona talking about the case on the Globo show "Mais Voce" this morning, June 6th.   This interview is in Portuguese and begins at about 7 minutes:

http://maisvoce.globo.com/MaisVoce/0,,MUL1664082-10345,00-MAIS+VOCE+FALA+SOBRE+BRASILEIROS+QUE+PERDEM+A+GUARDA+DOS+FILHOS+PARA+OS+PAI.html


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Re: Nona is at it again!
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2011, 01:40:14 PM »
As usual, they are talking apples and oranges (misturando alhos com bugalhos!)

One case seems to have merit; the Brazilian mother who went back to her native country with her children after getting a proper legal separation/divorce in Germany. It could not only be a violation of child custody agreement, perhaps even a Hague Convention Violation? 

The other is just, well, nonna Silvana. Then she keeps going with the lamestream media nonsense for not being able to see her grandson... Enough already!
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Re: Nona is at it again!
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2011, 01:45:00 PM »
I thought it was weird she's been quiet for so long... I was even beginning to think perhaps she saw the light and decided to abide by David's reasonable rules. I'm so naive!
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Re: Nona is at it again!
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2011, 01:54:33 PM »
Rough translation:

She says they are doing everything to be able to see Sean and that she spoke with him 6 times by phone.  She mentions his birthday and that she sent a card and an e-mail, but she didn’t get a reply or a telephone call back.  She was asked by the host where Sean is living now and she replied that “I think that he must be living with his father”.   The host asked if during the last call Nona felt that he remembers Brazil, and Nona said, “He remembers everything from Brazil and that he is now speaking Portuguese with a bit of an accent because he was prohibited to speak Portuguese”.  She also stated that the level of “blockage” to speak with “family” that he doesn’t even speak Portuguese anymore.  “The other thing” she said, “is that Sean has a sister” and that “he is being deprived to be able to live with his sister.  He doesn’t have the right to live with his sister, he doesn’t have the right to live with us, he doesn’t have the right to know anything about here. He is totally blocked.” She says that the Hague Convention says that the child has the right to live with the family and that “the most important thing that the Hague concludes is the well-being of the child.”  And in this case, Sean’s well-being is the least thing people are worried about. This leaves me very hurt.”  “my lawyers in Brazil are fighting for this visit to be done.  Now the Minister took up our cause because it is a case of human rights.  So, we’re going to begin negotiations at the levels of countries, of international relations, no longer a relationship of families.  Because this is a case of families that became an international and public subject.  And, as the United States used the State Department to enter into this case, now, our Minister will enter with her part for this visit occurs, because this IS a right, an international right that Sean continues having relationships with his Brazilian family.  “I went to the U.S. in March of 2010 with my husband and we weren’t able to be with the biological father of Sean.  The host asks what is “his” explanation as to why Nona can’t visit Sean and she says, “that we would interfere with the weel-being,  adaptation of Sean with him, fighting.  And it’s not that way.”  The host says she’s the maternal grandmother and Nona replies that during the five years Bruna lived here that Sean lived with her (Nona) every day.”  The host says that he “practically lived with you” and Nona says, “Yes, he lived with me.”   The host asks “What would you say as a caution to those (Brazilian) women marrying foreigners, in countries that maintain the same rhythm of injustice?”, and Nona says “Pay attention so that your daughters won’t be affected, because in all of these cases, I think the saddest thing is that the children are affected, because if the marriage doesn’t work out, everyone goes to their own side.  When children exist, they suffer greatly, and they are exactly the focus of the fight of the couple.  The children don’t deserve that.  Sean doesn’t deserve to suffer what he’s suffering now.”  The host says that Nona and her husband are fighters and Nona says that her husband died 2 ½ months ago.   The host says she is terrified with the injustices and this is one of the largest injustices I’ve seen in the last few years, for having, through the press, known the stories of who your family is and your daughter.  I put myself in your place imaging the level of calmness you to maintain this peace.  And now I know that you’ve lost your partner that was with you in this fight, the only thing that we here can do is make the facts public, pressure a little more, and I’m certain that the Minister, which I already had the opportunity to speak with her,  will pressure as much as the government can, for you to at least have the right to live with (Sean).  The host then asks what Nona is asking now and Nona says, “To visit and to create a regulation of visits, not only for me, but also for Chiara, my granddaughter, who has the right to live with her brother.  In the end, they are orphans of their mother. They have an enormous lasso (connection), and they aren’t having this right to live together, neither he or her.  And I, as a grandmother.”  The host says that they will await news from Nona and hope, and that with all the connections in this country (Brazil) she’ll follow the news closely.  Nona thanked the host for the opportunity to the she was given to keep people informed that they still haven’t been able to even see the boy since the last 6-minute telephone call in December (2010).  I’m dying of longing.  I want to see my grandson and that’s what I’m waiting for now, that the Minister will be able to to, since it really is a case of human rights.  A case of Sean’s rights, me, Chiara, a case that needs to be resolved now in this form.  I thank you.”

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Re: Nona is at it again!
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2011, 03:22:09 PM »
I just want to throw up reading this.  She is so full of herself.  What really cracks me up is saying Sean and Chiara have the right to live together.  What do you propose Nona?  Should they somehow set up an apartment together?  Does she really know how stupid she sounds?  Give it up already and start acting like a NORMAL grandmother.  You are worried about Sean's human rights!  What a joke!  I could go on and on but my blood pressure would go through the roof.

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Re: Nona is at it again!
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2011, 03:59:04 PM »
My mother sent me the news about this show, she said many many people watch Ana Maria Braga's show (A kind of Oprah). This Ana Maria has been completely misinformed about the subject! And Ana Maria saying this is one of the most unfair stories she has ever seen in her show makes me want to puke. Globo/Lins e Silva A$$ kisser! I also can't believe stupid Ana Maria insinuated that David, who "seemed" to be a nice man, could change so much. WTF does she know about David? Pardon my language, but this interview really pissed me off. Ana Maria and Maria do Rosario, two knuckleheads. And how dare she say she is not sure where Sean lives. Hello!

I already sent her show a message.

PS: Did you notice that for a grieving widow Silvana actually looks better and younger, red lipstick and all?
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2011, 04:16:55 PM »
I think we all need to inform Ana Maria Braga then!  She needs to know that the U.S. courts AND the Brazilian courts stated that Sean was originally abducted by Bruna and then a second abduction took place by JPLS, but also that the courts found involvement in this abduction by her honored guest, Nona.

Here's here contact link:

http://anamariabraga.globo.com/home/anamaria/faleconosco.php

My message was already sent, with a polite and respectful message.
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Re: Nona is at it again!
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2011, 04:35:39 PM »
Yes, let's fill her inbox folks.

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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2011, 06:11:36 PM »
the first case Ana Maria tells is very sad

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Re: Nona is at it again!
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2011, 06:52:27 PM »
Says that the Hague Convention says that the child has the right to live with the family and that “the most important thing that the Hague concludes is the well-being of the child.”


Sean is with his family in New Jersey, and it appears that Sean is very happy and enjoying life to the fullest.   You too could be part of his life, if you abide by David rules.
 
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Re: Nona is at it again!
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2011, 07:31:04 PM »
My children never lived with their half siblings. Full blooded siblings have been adopted in to seperate families for as far back as I can remember.

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Re: Nona is at it again!
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2011, 07:40:22 PM »
I wrote to Ana Maria and said I wanted to tell my story and suggested they interview Brazilians living abroad, married to non-Brazilians and that do not agree with IPCA. Even when a relationship falls apart, it's wrong to remove the child from the habitual residence and from contact with the other parent.
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Re: Nona is at it again!
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2011, 09:37:09 PM »
That's a good angle to use, liesl78.  I hope that she considers it seriously and responds.

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Re: Nona is at it again!
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2011, 10:45:35 AM »
I want to send this idiot a message but don't know Portuguese so I'm not sure what each box says.  Can someone help me?

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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2011, 11:36:13 AM »
Nome=Name
Sobrenome=Last Name
Escolha um sujeito = Choose a subject
Criticas=Criticisms
Mensagem=Message
Eviar Arquivo=Send File
Digitar as letras...=Enter the letters you see
Enviar=Send