FBI arrests Tenn. pastor in Vt.-Va. custody case

[genegirl99]

Virginia has said Vermont has jurisdicition.

That is true, although it seems like they're still fighting the jurisdiction issue since 2009 before Miller went on the lam and the US Supreme Court had not stepped in.

The Vermont Court said that although Jenkins never adopted Isabella she still had a right to see her.  Custody wasn't even brought up.

I was just laying everything out that I figured out and I probably wasn't clear with my meaning.

[genegirl99]

Lisa's facebook group: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=331151156690 

Only 119 people are in it.  Membership is closed.  It's run by a woman called Linda.

[SageDad]

I've seen some of the same idiots say about this case "Janet Jenkins isn't a mother, since she didn't adopt Isabella, and so only her 'real' biological mother should have any say in what happens to her." Even though they were married at the time and any children born to one of them should be both of theirs.

Then again, some of those people also seem to believe it's the biological act of giving birth that makes women into deities.

Good points.  Have to be careful when poking sacred cows, but there's been a lot of feminist efforts to uphold the rights of lesbian partners so I think you are still mostly politically correct.  Libraries could be filled with "Women's Studies" books written about the importance of the bond between child and the lesbian partner/mother.  Not much good will towards fathers from that crowd though.  I believe the phrase they use is "all men are rapists." 

Situations like this do create a bit of a conundrum for the Domestic Violence Industry though.  If we should always let mothers abduct kids what about when they are both mothers?  A little bit like the inconvenient fact that domestic violence rates are higher amongst lesbian couples than straight ones.

Facebook page of the abductor is classic child abductor histrionics:

What's a Mom to do?

Lisa carried Isabella in her womb for nine months.At seven months Lisa began premature labor and doctors put her on bedrest and medication to prevent early delivery. Isabella did arrive four weeks early but was perfect in every way.

...

What's a Mom to do?

Lisa and Isabella have gone to the underground. A Biblical comparison is when Moses mother in order to save baby Moses, she hid him in a basket in the brush in the Nile River.

[forthelost]

With a good dose of the "giving birth makes you a deity and thus the only person who should have any control over their child, ever" mentality I mentioned before.

Oh, and that quote is spurious, although if you read the writing of any of them it's not that far removed from it.

[SageDad]

Been a lot of news stories about this case.  Here's an article from today (though there have been dozens over the past few months)

http://www.newsleader.com/article/20120104/NEWS01/201040331/Draft-man-charged-lesbian-custody-fight

FBI has been especially active with this case like nothing I've ever seen before.  They've even arrested accomplices that are church pastors.  They normally won't even file charges against the abductors, much less the people who help them.

If only the media and the FBI cared about children like my son as much as they care about the non-biological children of divorced lesbians.  With all this "male privilege" I get to enjoy I think I wouldn't mind "suffering" a bit of the "patriarchal oppression" that pervades our society.

[Diane]

Fair to say the inequality and sporadic use of aid in the recovery of children overall, is grossly unfair and not dealt with nor explained by any of the agencies or political entities mandated to provide aid.   The most spurious case being that of Congressman Miller of Ca.   When all the powers that be,  came together to affect a three day return from Mexico, plus, the arrest, and return to the U.S of the abductor.