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After 10 Years, Revisiting the Elián González Fiasco
« on: April 22, 2010, 08:38:25 PM »
Good article by Time magazine.

After 10 Years, Revisiting the Elián González Fiasco


Section that mentions Sean Goldman..

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While in Miami last weekend, former President Bill Clinton, who occupied the White House in 2000, defended his decision to enforce the law and forcibly give Elián back to his dad. "If I had said, 'I don't like Cuba and I don't care what the international law is,'" Clinton said, "then not only me but no other American President would have been able to say with a straight face, 'You can't kidnap [American children] and keep [them]'" in other countries. The U.S., to cite just one example, would have had greatly diminished standing last year when it demanded that Brazil return nine-year-old Sean Goldman to his father in New Jersey (which it did, in time for Christmas).

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Re: After 10 Years, Revisiting the Elián González Fiasco
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2010, 08:57:54 PM »
My comment in the article:

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"then not only me but no other American President would have been able to say with a straight face, 'You can't kidnap [American children] and keep [them]'" -Bill Clinton

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry at that.  More apropos than whether or not they can keep a straight face is that no US president has ever said that on behalf of the 1000's of American children that are illegally abducted and held in foreign countries every year.  During his tenure as president Clinton was not known for addressing the issue of international child abduction and his administration actively campaigned against the International Parental Kidnapping Crime Act of 1993.  When Congress passed it anyway he eviscerated it with a signing statement that all but said it should not be enforced (and it hasn't been.)   What's more Bill's wife Hillary is now Secretary of State and runs the agency directly charged with assisting internationally kidnapped children and their American parents but she too has done nothing of note to advance this issue.

...I suppose it made for a good sound bite though -- practical politics and all that.
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Re: After 10 Years, Revisiting the Elián González Fiasco
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2010, 10:03:59 PM »
During his tenure as president Clinton was not known for addressing the issue of international child abduction and his administration actively campaigned against the International Parental Kidnapping Crime Act of 1993.  When Congress passed it anyway he eviscerated it with a signing statement that all but said it should not be enforced (and it hasn't been.)  

Do you have a link where I could find out more information about that legislation? I can search for it , but if you know a good reference, that would be great.

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Re: After 10 Years, Revisiting the Elián González Fiasco
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2010, 12:36:29 AM »
During his tenure as president Clinton was not known for addressing the issue of international child abduction and his administration actively campaigned against the International Parental Kidnapping Crime Act of 1993.  When Congress passed it anyway he eviscerated it with a signing statement that all but said it should not be enforced (and it hasn't been.)  

Do you have a link where I could find out more information about that legislation? I can search for it , but if you know a good reference, that would be great.

Here's the legislation:

http://207.58.181.246/pdf_files/library/Parental_kidnapping_crime_act.pdf

Clinton's statement when signing it:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=46192
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Re: After 10 Years, Revisiting the Elián González Fiasco
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2010, 06:34:09 AM »
During his tenure as president Clinton was not known for addressing the issue of international child abduction and his administration actively campaigned against the International Parental Kidnapping Crime Act of 1993.  When Congress passed it anyway he eviscerated it with a signing statement that all but said it should not be enforced (and it hasn't been.)   

Do you have a link where I could find out more information about that legislation? I can search for it , but if you know a good reference, that would be great.

Here's the legislation:

http://207.58.181.246/pdf_files/library/Parental_kidnapping_crime_act.pdf

Clinton's statement when signing it:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=46192

This article addresses some of the history:

Justice Ignores Stolen Kids (Issue date 11/29/99)
Despite recent testimony before Congress by beleaguered parents of internationally kidnapped children, State and Justice departments continue to dismiss these crimes
http://www.findthekids.com/pdf/justice.pdf

When I talked to the FBI about my sons' abduction in '08 they all but repeated Clinton's statement saying "the Hague Convention represents the most effective way to return children from Mexico" despite the fact that the Hague Convention is almost entirely ineffective in Mexico and the children who do return from Mexico non-voluntarily do so as the direct result of criminal charges and extradition threats or deportation proceedings in the case of non-Mexican citizen abductors (even though State will cite all the above non-Hague returns as "successful Hague returns" painting a criminally fraudulent picture of the stark reality of Hague proceedings in countries like Mexico.)

The IPKCA is almost completely ignored by the Justice Department who use the Hague Convention and the "possibility that criminal charges will cause complications in the Hague proceedings", and don't "necessarily result in the return of a child" as pretexts to do nothing, leaving LBP's with only the State Department to assist them in moving forward with a Hague case.  Not only do they not file charges but they do not investigate to gather evidence or file reports that would provide crucial  evidence for use in a Hague trial, nor do they provide any assistance to parents trying to use the Hague Convention to recover their children  -- even when the country holding the children is notoriously noncompliant with the Hague Convention.  Even more to the point, the USDOJ has abused "prosecutorial discretion" to even refuse to file charges against parents that have abducted children to non-Hague countries.
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