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Questions for Rep Holt's Town Hall Tomorrow Dec 8
« on: December 07, 2009, 10:53:30 PM »
I plan to participate in Rep Holt's telephone town hall tomorrow evening at 7:30PM. (See http://bringseanhome.org/forum/showpost.php?p=49850&postcount=6 for details). I'd like to have a good question ready, and I'm unsure what the appropriate length is. I know it is late, but if anyone has feedback (good, bad or a better question to ask), please let me know before 6PM tomorrow :) I know that there is a likely chance I won't be able to say anything; however, I don't want to pass up this chance.

 Congressman Holt, I appreciate your speaking at the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission on the topic of international parental child abduction. I am concerned that your legislation HR 3487 (The International Parental Child Abduction Deterrence Act) does not fully address the needs of left behind parents and 2800 abducted children because this matter goes way beyond the activity of individual child abductors and their accomplices. These children do not have time on their side and we need action now from Congress and not competing legislation to divide these efforts. Rep. Smith has taken the lead on this issue with the house, and I am respectfully asking that you agree to  co-sponsor Congressman Smith’s legislation H.R. 3240 (International Child Abduction Prevention Act) and work with him in a spirit of unified effort to create positive change for these children who so desperately need our help now. Thank you.

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Re: Questions for Rep Holt's Town Hall Tomorrow Dec 8
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2009, 11:08:26 PM »
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I plan to participate in Rep Holt's telephone town hall tomorrow evening at 7:30PM. (See http://bringseanhome.org/forum/showpost.php?p=49850&postcount=6 for details). I'd like to have a good question ready, and I'm unsure what the appropriate length is. I know it is late, but if anyone has feedback (good, bad or a better question to ask), please let me know before 6PM tomorrow :) I know that there is a likely chance I won't be able to say anything; however, I don't want to pass up this chance.

 Congressman Holt, I appreciate your speaking at the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission on the topic of international parental child abduction. I am concerned that your legislation HR 3487 (The International Parental Child Abduction Deterrence Act) does not fully address the needs of left behind parents and 2800 abducted children because this matter goes way beyond the activity of individual child abductors and their accomplices. These children do not have time on their side and we need action now from Congress and not competing legislation to divide these efforts. Rep. Smith has taken the lead on this issue with the house, and I am respectfully asking that you agree to  co-sponsor Congressman Smith’s legislation H.R. 3240 (International Child Abduction Prevention Act) and work with him in a spirit of unified effort to create positive change for these children who so desperately need our help now. Thank you.
I suggest that you take Chris Smith out of the equation. Try "there is another bill in the House that already has AT LEAST 24 (check this. 24 on Thomas Registry right now) cosponsors and more comprehensively addresses the needs of abducted children and their left behind parents, and I am respectfully asking you to cosponsor HR 3240 and conference with it's other sponsors to improve it if with any measures that you feel strongly about. This way, a unified effort.....(your words)"
Pass HR 3240
Please visit links to HR 3240.  We need this bill passed now for the 2,800 other abducted American Children!

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Re: Questions for Rep Holt's Town Hall Tomorrow Dec 8
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 10:30:04 AM »
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I suggest that you take Chris Smith out of the equation. Try "there is another bill in the House that already has AT LEAST 24 (check this. 24 on Thomas Registry right now) cosponsors and more comprehensively addresses the needs of abducted children and their left behind parents, and I am respectfully asking you to cosponsor HR 3240 and conference with it's other sponsors to improve it if with any measures that you feel strongly about. This way, a unified effort.....(your words)"

Thanks, I looked to compare cosponsors on bill and see that Holt's bill has only 6 cosponsors, including one republican (Rep Burton, who has cosponsored both HR3240 and HR3487, the only Rep to do so). Does anyone think it would be more accurate for me to call Smith's office and ask for the exact number of cosponsors or just leave it at the 24 listed on Thomas Register? In full disclosure, the words are partially mine and partially from a draft letter LukieD sent me. If they join together, then it would be over 30 cosponsors and hopefully more people working together if we can accomplish joining them.

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Re: Questions for Rep Holt's Town Hall Tomorrow Dec 8
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 12:28:28 PM »
Call Smith for an accurate count. Sometimes we find Thomas Register is not up to date.
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Please visit links to HR 3240.  We need this bill passed now for the 2,800 other abducted American Children!

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Re: Questions for Rep Holt's Town Hall Tomorrow Dec 8
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2009, 01:13:54 PM »
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Call Smith for an accurate count. Sometimes we find Thomas Register is not up to date.

I called and was transferred to a pleasant woman who told me they have a list with 25 cosponsors (instead of 24) but that the 25th person has not officially confirmed yet. We chatted for about 10 minutes (I had no idea any congressional staffers would do that! :)). She told me that the two provisions Rep Holt's bill has about restricting VISAs for abductors and extradition of them in criminal cases (which is by treaty and not automatic) could easily be merged into Rep Smith's bill, which does not currently include those provisions. Another point she mentioned is that Rep Holt is not keen on country sanctions and prefers to only target individuals (clearly, when court orders are unenforced individual sanctions don't work). However, as we know, criminal prosecutions are frequently not used in Hague cases for reasons TWeinstein discussed here http://bringseanhome.org/wordpress/?page_id=72

I'm posting this in case anyone else is able to get on the telephone town hall and ask Rep Holt a question.

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Re: Questions for Rep Holt's Town Hall Tomorrow Dec 8
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2009, 01:18:12 PM »
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I plan to participate in Rep Holt's telephone town hall tomorrow evening at 7:30PM. (See http://bringseanhome.org/forum/showpost.php?p=49850&postcount=6 for details). I'd like to have a good question ready, and I'm unsure what the appropriate length is. I know it is late, but if anyone has feedback (good, bad or a better question to ask), please let me know before 6PM tomorrow :) I know that there is a likely chance I won't be able to say anything; however, I don't want to pass up this chance.
 
Congressman Holt, I appreciate your speaking at the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission on the topic of international parental child abduction. I am concerned that your legislation HR 3487 (The International Parental Child Abduction Deterrence Act) does not fully address the needs of left behind parents and 2800 abducted children because this matter goes way beyond the activity of individual child abductors and their accomplices. These children do not have time on their side and we need action now from Congress and not competing legislation to divide these efforts. Rep. Smith has taken the lead on this issue with the house, and I am respectfully asking that you agree to co-sponsor Congressman Smith’s legislation H.R. 3240 (International Child Abduction Prevention Act) and work with him in a spirit of unified effort to create positive change for these children who so desperately need our help now. Thank you.

I'd ask him "WHY instead of cosponsoring 3240 did you choose to enter a completely different bill which sucks eventhough BSH was endorsing 3240?".......Then say "oh, I know. Because you sat on your XXX until Dave's plight started costing you votes and now your taking a stab at political grandstanding. Nevermind.".............:madgo:

Seriously though, what you have looks good......

Or you could try something along the lines of "As a constituant, I'm concerned about your commitment to help Dave Goldman be reunited w/ his son as soon as possible. You were slow to respond, didn't cosponsor 3240 when it was introduced, and then entered competing legislation ( 3487 ) thus slowing down potential progress. Furthermore, it doesn't look as though you are even pushing hard on your legislation seeing as you have only managed to get 6 cosponsors for it thus far. Can you EXPLAIN your reasoning because it looks like it's politically motivated more than anything else"..............
Lastly - David, there are many prayers across the world going out for you and Sean. When I got my son home - regardless of all the attempts of parental alienation that were forced on him - he said "Father, I always knew you loved me." I am certain Sean feels the same way.
 
Peter

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Re: Questions for Rep Holt's Town Hall Tomorrow Dec 8
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2009, 01:27:29 PM »
Maybe just ask him if he has considered that having two resolutions might create additional delays and division and would he perhaps consider joining forces with Congressman Smith, merging his resolution in with Smith's HR3240 and encourage his current co-sponsors to co-sponsor the new amended resolution.
 
Let's not point any fingers or make accusations.

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Re: Questions for Rep Holt's Town Hall Tomorrow Dec 8
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2009, 01:39:19 PM »
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Maybe just ask him if he has considered that having two resolutions might create additional delays and division and would he perhaps consider joining forces with Congressman Smith, merging his resolution in with Smith's HR3240 and encourage his current co-sponsors to co-sponsor the new amended resolution.
 
Let's not point any fingers or make accusations.
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Even if they are true......:mad2:
 
Thanks M.......
 
You explained exactly what I was wanted to say w/out offending anyone. I'm not as good at that as you are.....;)
Lastly - David, there are many prayers across the world going out for you and Sean. When I got my son home - regardless of all the attempts of parental alienation that were forced on him - he said "Father, I always knew you loved me." I am certain Sean feels the same way.
 
Peter

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Re: Questions for Rep Holt's Town Hall Tomorrow Dec 8
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2009, 03:17:34 PM »
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:yeahthat:
 
Even if they are true......:mad2:
 
Thanks M.......
 
You explained exactly what I was wanted to say w/out offending anyone. I'm not as good at that as you are.....;)

JL, I have a hard time finding fault with your original statement/question. I'm sick to my stomach over these petty partisan games at the expense of a real American boy held hostage in a foreign country. I understand that we have to be so PC, to the point that we can't even mention Chris Smith because of Holt's sensitivities, that no honest and straightforward questions like yours can be asked. I'm pissed.:burn:

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Re: Questions for Rep Holt's Town Hall Tomorrow Dec 8
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2009, 03:21:22 PM »
Since when has being polite become the negatively-implied "PC"?
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Re: Questions for Rep Holt's Town Hall Tomorrow Dec 8
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2009, 06:22:06 PM »
I just don't think it is simply being polite to omit Smith's name when referring to that "other bill". That ship has already sailed and is named the USS Chris Smith. Holt basically built a pirate ship and sent it out to dilute the votes and sink both measures. We all know Holt did this for partisan and ego reasons. Holt is a tool and I think he should be reminded who really started the ball rolling, without selfishness, and reaching outside his district to help an American. Not mentioning him, to me, is being PC and doing a disservice to Rep. Smith. Sorry for the long answer Chuck, I'm not a Holt fan.

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Re: Questions for Rep Holt's Town Hall Tomorrow Dec 8
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2009, 07:56:21 PM »
One of Congressman Holt's staffers took my question to either save for voicemail later or perhaps to let me answer in the next 35 minutes. He's only answered 2 questions in the past 20 minutes, which while I appreciate his thoroughness to the questions, it would be nice for more questions to be answered briefly.

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Re: Questions for Rep Holt's Town Hall Tomorrow Dec 8
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2009, 08:39:47 PM »
He took my question!!! :D I was pleasantly shocked when my name was announced. I was hoping it was me and not someone else with the same name. I was impressed that I managed to get his staffers to take my question considering in response to 'what town are you from?' I mentioned I'm a grad student at UD, from central NJ, calling on behalf of some of his constituents. I also mentioned wanting him to cosponsor Chris Smith's legislation in my question summary to his staffers.

 Congressman Holt, I appreciate your speaking at the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission on the topic of international parental child abduction. I am concerned that your legislation HR 3487 (The International Parental Child Abduction Deterrence Act) does not fully address the needs of left behind parents and 2800 abducted children because this matter goes way beyond the activity of individual child abductors and their accomplices. These children do not have time on their side and we need action now from Congress and not competing legislation to divide these efforts. There is another bill in the house, which more comprehensively addresses the needs of abducted children and their left behind parents and already has 24 cosponsors. I am respectfully asking that you agree to co-sponsor Congressman Smith’s legislation H.R. 3240 (International Child Abduction Prevention Act) and work with him in a spirit of unified effort to create positive change for these children who so desperately need our help now. His office told me today that they would be willing to add provisions from your legislation into HR 3240. Thank you.
 
In response, Rep Holt spent several minutes explaining the case regarding David and Sean. He stumbled a bit speaking about it, but I did not notice anything incorrect in his description.  I was pleased he referred to the non blood relative abductor (in some similar fashion) as supposed to an incorrect familiar relation. He stated he expects a positive ruling within days from the Brazilian courts. His discussion of how the case was raised by him with multiple Brazilian counterparts (ambassador and someone else I believe) surprised me, and I was dissapointed about how he played up that the ruling from the 'independent' judiciary expected soon.

He then discussed his bill as 'not total solution, just one tool.' Then he mentioned what other people thought the solutions were and mentioned Chris Smith's bill and in regards to the Ambassador at large he stated 'I like the ambassador idea alot'. Then he discussed how the chairman of foreign affairs was 'developing legislation from the hearing.' He stated the left behind parents' 'testimony was heart breaking'. Then he mentioned how he hopes that legislation will be completed soon and hopefully will pass and make a difference. Finally, he stated that he thanked me for asking that question and mentioned something about it being an important issue.

I think his answer leaves NO questions as to whether he plans to combine his legislation with Rep Smith's. Sadly, despite him mentioning that he agrees with aspects of this bill he did not mention anything he disagreed with to prevent him from cosponsoring it (he only mentioned issues with HR 2702 (not by number or name, but by bill contents)). I strongly feel we need more constituents to put pressure on him to NOT work on MORE legislation and instead PASS current legislation that HELPS children and LBPs. Yes, I am sure more legislation can be passed, but he can wait until HR 3240 passes. I believe that I could not have made it any easier for him to say 'that's great Rep Smith's office is willing to work with me, why don't I do that to help all these children and parents more than just the tools in my bill.' He never broached the idea of cosponsoring the legislation, much less working the 'tools' in his legislation into HR 3240. :mad2:

The one thing I wish I'd asked now is when he personally gave the shirt all the BSH supporters signed to President Obama. That is one question that would potentially have told his position even more clearly.

I know the telephone town hall is recorded (I was warned of that when I entered the call). But I have no idea if/when a recording would be posted online.

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Re: Questions for Rep Holt's Town Hall Tomorrow Dec 8
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2009, 08:56:46 PM »
Nice job UDS!
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Re: Questions for Rep Holt's Town Hall Tomorrow Dec 8
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2009, 09:03:43 PM »
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Nice job UDS!
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Thanks, my heart was pounding the whole time I was asking the question as I was a bit nervous. I've never spoken in that type of public forum before although I have previously moderated conference discussions with 100+ people without being nervous.

Thanks to those who helped me improve my question.:) I just wish I had something better to report.

Now that I've calmed down a bit, perhaps it would be good for a constituent to call him and request an answer to why he will not cosponsor HR 3240 despite his support for some of it's provisions including the Ambassador at large position.